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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://camillecrimson.com/blog/2012/06/the-atheist-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-50342</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a very interesting take on things, Doris.  I&#039;m so glad you feel comfortable to share and exchange ideas here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a very interesting take on things, Doris.  I&#8217;m so glad you feel comfortable to share and exchange ideas here.</p>
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		<title>By: Doris</title>
		<link>http://camillecrimson.com/blog/2012/06/the-atheist-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-49971</link>
		<dc:creator>Doris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was born and raised behind the Iron Curtain, in the &quot;socialist paradise&quot; where going to church was considered subversive. Most of the clergymen were informants for the red regime - confessing your personal secrets to them could have consequnces. School taught us there&#039;s no God, the university moreso. I was very good at studying Marxism, not just because it was imposed (and no one took it seriously) but because I was curious, wanting to get into the mind of the thinkers. From Marx, I reached for Hegel, then Plato. Things slowly starting to get a shape, or the shadow of a shape. Then I discovered Paul -- the outstanding thinker of Judaism who took theory to Praxis. Connecting the dots, it all made more and more sense -- all in an analytical way, at least this is my personal experience. 

After the fall of the wall, politicians used &quot;god&quot; for their own interests. At least the godless terror againt those &quot;thinking different&quot; was a matter of the past, but the quality of the new discourse didn&#039;t improve much. 

I&#039;m not a religious person, I look for logic and sense, for the code that&#039;s hidden beneath the shiny social interface imposed on us. If this universe is not an accident but a virtual machine, then -- I guess -- there&#039;s a Programmer who wrote it. If I&#039;m a person inventing a god, then my God should be at least a person, as I am. &quot;Cogito ergo sum&quot; applies to any person, in his/her own way, according to his/her own life experience and/or other factors. 

Oh, and one more thing, a very important one. Nick wrote &quot;The way I see it, if there shall be a heaven and a god (which I do highly doubt) then I will be more accepted in it then a blind believer. I feel that because I questioned, because I used my mind as the tool it is, then if there is a god he/she/it will understand that more than blind faith.&quot; 

True! The sole fact that you evaluate the &quot;code&quot; is enough to give you access to the overall system. As for blind believers, they&#039;re taken there like passengers on a train, willy nilly -- this being already a visible constant of their lives. 

What&#039;s even more refreshing is that we&#039;re talking philosophy and existentialism on Camille&#039;s blog, debating from different places and perspectives, while enjoying beautiful erotica -- because the experience of desire for beauty and sensual pleasure should never be silenced. 

Thanks Camille for this extraordinary privilege!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born and raised behind the Iron Curtain, in the &#8220;socialist paradise&#8221; where going to church was considered subversive. Most of the clergymen were informants for the red regime &#8211; confessing your personal secrets to them could have consequnces. School taught us there&#8217;s no God, the university moreso. I was very good at studying Marxism, not just because it was imposed (and no one took it seriously) but because I was curious, wanting to get into the mind of the thinkers. From Marx, I reached for Hegel, then Plato. Things slowly starting to get a shape, or the shadow of a shape. Then I discovered Paul &#8212; the outstanding thinker of Judaism who took theory to Praxis. Connecting the dots, it all made more and more sense &#8212; all in an analytical way, at least this is my personal experience. </p>
<p>After the fall of the wall, politicians used &#8220;god&#8221; for their own interests. At least the godless terror againt those &#8220;thinking different&#8221; was a matter of the past, but the quality of the new discourse didn&#8217;t improve much. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a religious person, I look for logic and sense, for the code that&#8217;s hidden beneath the shiny social interface imposed on us. If this universe is not an accident but a virtual machine, then &#8212; I guess &#8212; there&#8217;s a Programmer who wrote it. If I&#8217;m a person inventing a god, then my God should be at least a person, as I am. &#8220;Cogito ergo sum&#8221; applies to any person, in his/her own way, according to his/her own life experience and/or other factors. </p>
<p>Oh, and one more thing, a very important one. Nick wrote &#8220;The way I see it, if there shall be a heaven and a god (which I do highly doubt) then I will be more accepted in it then a blind believer. I feel that because I questioned, because I used my mind as the tool it is, then if there is a god he/she/it will understand that more than blind faith.&#8221; </p>
<p>True! The sole fact that you evaluate the &#8220;code&#8221; is enough to give you access to the overall system. As for blind believers, they&#8217;re taken there like passengers on a train, willy nilly &#8212; this being already a visible constant of their lives. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s even more refreshing is that we&#8217;re talking philosophy and existentialism on Camille&#8217;s blog, debating from different places and perspectives, while enjoying beautiful erotica &#8212; because the experience of desire for beauty and sensual pleasure should never be silenced. </p>
<p>Thanks Camille for this extraordinary privilege!</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://camillecrimson.com/blog/2012/06/the-atheist-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-49965</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, your thoughts are very interesting and I certainly agree.  Thanks for opening up your mind for me to read your eloquent thoughts on the subject.  Your dwarfism project sounds especially interesting.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, your thoughts are very interesting and I certainly agree.  Thanks for opening up your mind for me to read your eloquent thoughts on the subject.  Your dwarfism project sounds especially interesting.  <img src='http://camillecrimson.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nick G</title>
		<link>http://camillecrimson.com/blog/2012/06/the-atheist-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-49867</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, comfort isn&#039;t a bad thing. The problem is when you hold something so highly solely because you want comfort. The thing is, you should believe in something because it evokes something inside you. Because you have chosen to believe in it based on logical reasoning and insight.

It&#039;s annoying to see people blindly believing for many reasons. Some because they are afraid of the alternation, the &quot;better safe than sorry&quot; attitude. They would rather believe and be wrong than to not believe and not be accepted into heaven if there is one. But that isn&#039;t truly believing...it&#039;s believe because you are afraid of the consequences if you do not believe. The way I see it, if there shall be a heaven and a god (which I do highly doubt) then I will be more accepted in it then a blind believer. I feel that because I questioned, because I used my mind as the tool it is, then if there is a god he/she/it will understand that more than blind faith.

And then there are many of the followers who were just bred into their religion, that know no other way. That are believing because that&#039;s what they think they are supposed to do. As my dad so affectionately put it when I asked him why he believed, &quot;Because I was raised that way.&quot; I am not cattle. I am an intelligent creature. I am capable of logical reasoning and deduction. 

Which makes me wonder, is humanity the only species that creates a deity? Do other animals believe in gods or afterlives? Do they spend time pondering their existence or do they just live their life? Do they wonder where they came from and if what they do is morally favorable? 

Anyways...most religious people are not all that religious. They didn&#039;t reasonable choose their religion. They were forced into it, raised to believe it. Imagine if you were raised the same way as most people are in this part of the US (where I am from, Texas to be exact). You are told from a very young age, Jesus is real, Santa Claus is real, the Easter Bunny is real, the Tooth Fairy is real, so on and so forth. When you become of age, you generally are told that Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth fairy, etc. are not real, just made up. Now, imagine if the opposite were true. Imagine that you were told all of the same things, but instead when you became of age, they told you that Jesus wasn&#039;t real, that he was made up. What would you believe?

Another example, let&#039;s say I took 10 people who suffered from dwarfism from birth into a village I constructed in the middle of the woods, thousands of miles from any civilizations. Now, I raise these small people from infants, the entire time telling them that I am a god and I control everything and that is the reason I am twice their size. And each year I bring a new infant into the village. If I did this for 30 years, what do you think that the people living in my created village would believe? I promise you that most of them would believe me to be a god.

Humanity is victim to circumstance. We cling to the things that were pounded into us from birth because it is what feels most comfortable. The only thing that saves us from this is the fact that we have intelligent minds and we are social creatures. We are capable of researching so many options and weighing what seems the most appropriate. I can&#039;t tell anyone that they are wrong, because, how the hell can I honestly know? However, I can think that some things people believe are foolish and I certainly wouldn&#039;t believe them. 

Anyhow...I think I went a bit far with that one lol. I kinda got sidetracked... Too many thoughts about this subject.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, comfort isn&#8217;t a bad thing. The problem is when you hold something so highly solely because you want comfort. The thing is, you should believe in something because it evokes something inside you. Because you have chosen to believe in it based on logical reasoning and insight.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s annoying to see people blindly believing for many reasons. Some because they are afraid of the alternation, the &#8220;better safe than sorry&#8221; attitude. They would rather believe and be wrong than to not believe and not be accepted into heaven if there is one. But that isn&#8217;t truly believing&#8230;it&#8217;s believe because you are afraid of the consequences if you do not believe. The way I see it, if there shall be a heaven and a god (which I do highly doubt) then I will be more accepted in it then a blind believer. I feel that because I questioned, because I used my mind as the tool it is, then if there is a god he/she/it will understand that more than blind faith.</p>
<p>And then there are many of the followers who were just bred into their religion, that know no other way. That are believing because that&#8217;s what they think they are supposed to do. As my dad so affectionately put it when I asked him why he believed, &#8220;Because I was raised that way.&#8221; I am not cattle. I am an intelligent creature. I am capable of logical reasoning and deduction. </p>
<p>Which makes me wonder, is humanity the only species that creates a deity? Do other animals believe in gods or afterlives? Do they spend time pondering their existence or do they just live their life? Do they wonder where they came from and if what they do is morally favorable? </p>
<p>Anyways&#8230;most religious people are not all that religious. They didn&#8217;t reasonable choose their religion. They were forced into it, raised to believe it. Imagine if you were raised the same way as most people are in this part of the US (where I am from, Texas to be exact). You are told from a very young age, Jesus is real, Santa Claus is real, the Easter Bunny is real, the Tooth Fairy is real, so on and so forth. When you become of age, you generally are told that Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth fairy, etc. are not real, just made up. Now, imagine if the opposite were true. Imagine that you were told all of the same things, but instead when you became of age, they told you that Jesus wasn&#8217;t real, that he was made up. What would you believe?</p>
<p>Another example, let&#8217;s say I took 10 people who suffered from dwarfism from birth into a village I constructed in the middle of the woods, thousands of miles from any civilizations. Now, I raise these small people from infants, the entire time telling them that I am a god and I control everything and that is the reason I am twice their size. And each year I bring a new infant into the village. If I did this for 30 years, what do you think that the people living in my created village would believe? I promise you that most of them would believe me to be a god.</p>
<p>Humanity is victim to circumstance. We cling to the things that were pounded into us from birth because it is what feels most comfortable. The only thing that saves us from this is the fact that we have intelligent minds and we are social creatures. We are capable of researching so many options and weighing what seems the most appropriate. I can&#8217;t tell anyone that they are wrong, because, how the hell can I honestly know? However, I can think that some things people believe are foolish and I certainly wouldn&#8217;t believe them. </p>
<p>Anyhow&#8230;I think I went a bit far with that one lol. I kinda got sidetracked&#8230; Too many thoughts about this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://camillecrimson.com/blog/2012/06/the-atheist-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-49854</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re absolutely right.  Comfort isn&#039;t a bad thing, just when people extrapolate and act cruelly because of it.

I&#039;m in the same boat.  I&#039;m happy with my life and not knowing everything.  It&#039;s nice to just be.  I think you have a great philosophy on things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right.  Comfort isn&#8217;t a bad thing, just when people extrapolate and act cruelly because of it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the same boat.  I&#8217;m happy with my life and not knowing everything.  It&#8217;s nice to just be.  I think you have a great philosophy on things.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick G</title>
		<link>http://camillecrimson.com/blog/2012/06/the-atheist-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-49799</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will certainly be quite a while before Christianity dies out. But, like all religions and faiths before it, it will eventually die.

It seems to me that since the beginning, humanity has created a deity. Humans need comfort. They need explanation. Even false explanation. They need a reason to do the things they do. They need a reason for all of this. Whether it is many gods or one gods, the entire intent is to explain our existence, explain why things happen, give humanity a direction, and to give comfort in death.

I don&#039;t need any of the above. I am fine with the fact that sometimes things are unexplainable and happen purely by chance. I don&#039;t really care where we came from, I just know that we are here now. I don&#039;t need someone to tell me how to live. I know inside myself what feels right and what feels wrong. I&#039;m not saying that I am right or wrong, I&#039;m not saying that what I think is the right way. Obviously, as everyone who exists is swayed in some way by their social surroundings and by the vast majorities decisions on what is morally acceptable.

I also don&#039;t need comfort in death. I am not afraid of what awaits me after this life, whether it be nothingness or a place of blissful eternity. 

Christianity will fall, just as all other fell before it. Just like every country in power today will fall like every other power before it. The cycle is inevitable. We fall and we rebuild. Until the time that we extinct our race, which, we will end up doing eventually.

So...it&#039;s pointless to cling to a religion. There are over 600 religions. No one truly knows. Just live life and be happy. The rest will come when it is time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will certainly be quite a while before Christianity dies out. But, like all religions and faiths before it, it will eventually die.</p>
<p>It seems to me that since the beginning, humanity has created a deity. Humans need comfort. They need explanation. Even false explanation. They need a reason to do the things they do. They need a reason for all of this. Whether it is many gods or one gods, the entire intent is to explain our existence, explain why things happen, give humanity a direction, and to give comfort in death.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need any of the above. I am fine with the fact that sometimes things are unexplainable and happen purely by chance. I don&#8217;t really care where we came from, I just know that we are here now. I don&#8217;t need someone to tell me how to live. I know inside myself what feels right and what feels wrong. I&#8217;m not saying that I am right or wrong, I&#8217;m not saying that what I think is the right way. Obviously, as everyone who exists is swayed in some way by their social surroundings and by the vast majorities decisions on what is morally acceptable.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t need comfort in death. I am not afraid of what awaits me after this life, whether it be nothingness or a place of blissful eternity. </p>
<p>Christianity will fall, just as all other fell before it. Just like every country in power today will fall like every other power before it. The cycle is inevitable. We fall and we rebuild. Until the time that we extinct our race, which, we will end up doing eventually.</p>
<p>So&#8230;it&#8217;s pointless to cling to a religion. There are over 600 religions. No one truly knows. Just live life and be happy. The rest will come when it is time.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://camillecrimson.com/blog/2012/06/the-atheist-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-45232</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s important to be visible as a smart, respectful and good Atheist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s important to be visible as a smart, respectful and good Atheist.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://camillecrimson.com/blog/2012/06/the-atheist-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-45226</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lovely to see more of us athiests &quot;coming out&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely to see more of us athiests &#8220;coming out&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://camillecrimson.com/blog/2012/06/the-atheist-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-43306</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those are some really interesting viewpoints, Doris.  You&#039;re really giving me some interesting things to think about.  I&#039;ll try to think outside the box.  The shiny new Apple box, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are some really interesting viewpoints, Doris.  You&#8217;re really giving me some interesting things to think about.  I&#8217;ll try to think outside the box.  The shiny new Apple box, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://camillecrimson.com/blog/2012/06/the-atheist-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-43300</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that mutual respect is the greatest thing, and I try to always respect others, even if I don&#039;t personally agree with them.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that mutual respect is the greatest thing, and I try to always respect others, even if I don&#8217;t personally agree with them.  <img src='http://camillecrimson.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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